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Turnpikes take toll on Krusee

Monday, November 20, 2006

The continuing political parlor game of "What price tolls?" took an interesting turn Nov. 7.

The Big Toller himself — Gov. Rick Perry — seemed to suffer little damage from what was a sustained battering on the issue, losing only three of the dozens of counties in the paths of the two proposed Trans-Texas Corridor routes. But voters in Texas House District 52 alongside the new Texas 45 North tollway put something of a scare into state Rep. Mike Krusee.

The Williamson County Republican is the chairman of the House Transportation Committee, stage-managed the birth of the controversial Phase 2 toll road plan in Austin and has been a blunt advocate for Perry's transportation plans.

His Democratic opponent, Karen Felthauser, made sure as many District 52 voters as possible knew about Krusee's fondness for tolls.

Her Web site and signs featured this slogan: "Schools yes! Tolls no!" And she told voters that Krusee was lying when he said the Trans-Texas Corridor highway through Central Texas will be Texas 130, which is partially open and should be complete by next year. Her point to the eastern part of District 52 in and around Taylor and Granger: the REAL Trans-Texas Corridor is yet to come and will take your land.

Actually, Krusee was telling the truth, although other elements of the Trans-Texas Corridor — rail, pipelines, electric lines — could end up requiring more land buys.

Now the punch line: Krusee, like Perry, won. But not by much.

In supposedly rock-ribbed Republican Williamson County, Krusee got just 49.7 percent of the vote, according to the unofficial final tally. Felthauser got 44.8 percent, and Libertarian Lillian Simmons got 5.4 percent. All in all, something well short of a rout. Krusee got almost 94 percent two years ago when Felthauser ran as a write-in.

And this after a campaign when Krusee (not counting costs in the final eight days, which won't be reported until January) spent almost $118,000 to Felthauser's $13,300.

Asked about this, Krusee said tolls mattered, but mostly because Felthauser was putting out falsehoods (in his view) that were largely unchallenged in the media.

But Krusee also maintains that he, like former GOP House member Jack Stick from northern Travis County in 2004 and Travis County Republican Ben Bentzin this year, was hurt by a district morphing from solid Republican to swing district. District 52 runs from Austin at the Travis County line, through Round Rock to Georgetown, and then covers the county's eastern half.

A look at a sampling of 20 precincts in District 52 shows that, yes, the Democrats, though still behind, are surging. But Krusee performed worse than other Republicans in those precincts, finishing about 2 percentage points behind GOP state Sen. Steve Ogden and almost 7 percentage points behind Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst.

I asked Krusee, who has shown an interest in higher education issues, whether he might be eyeing a different, less heated, committee to head up in the 2007 session. No, he said, if the House leadership gives the nod, he'll stay on Transportation.

He may or may not have that option in 2009.

TTC Alternatives

Alternatives

Use existing right of way instead of mass evictions of Texas families for foriegn controlled toll roads...

1999 state analysis calling for the expansion of IH 35 using existing rights of way will relieve congestion by improving transportation: http://www.dot.state.tx.us/mis/i35corr/i35corr.htm

Since June of 2001, the Ports to Plains feasibility study exists (again if you look carefully) approved on TxDoT’s own website at: http://www.dot.state.tx.us/publications/transportation_planning/portstoplains_execsumm.pdf

Tollway, turnpike fees on the rise

Tollway, turnpike fees on the rise

Some drivers to pay $1; increase steeper for cash customers

11:41 PM CST on Wednesday, November 15, 2006

By TONY HARTZEL / The Dallas Morning News

FORT WORTH – Driving on the Dallas North Tollway and the Bush Turnpike is going to cost more – enough to make some motorists fork over a dollar at each main toll plaza.

On Wednesday, the North Texas Tollway Authority formally approved raising the tolls on both roads, effective next September. Rates for TollTag users will increase a dime to 70 cents, and tolls for cash customers will go up a quarter to reach $1.

The board also approved a second, smaller rate increase that will take effect in 2010.

The tollway authority last raised its rates on the Dallas North Tollway in 1999 and on the Bush Turnpike in 2002. The agency's board of directors, faced with rising costs for planned projects and demand to build even more projects, had discussed toll increases for more than a year. In April, the board approved a policy calling for regular toll increases every five years, and that led to the toll increase approved Wednesday.

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Tell us: Is the approved toll hike too much?

"We have to increase rates to not only maintain what we've got, but also to build for the future," said board vice chairman Jack Miller.

Revenue from the increases could raise $2 billion for road projects in the next 35 years. Projects could include the Trinity Parkway near downtown Dallas and a State Highway 360 extension in southern Tarrant County.

"We've been asked to do more to address the congestion issue," said Allan Rutter, executive director of the tollway authority. "This will do so in a way that addresses the concerns of a lot of people in our own region."

The agency offered some good news for motorists who slog through the tollway construction zone near downtown Dallas. Higher rates at the main toll plaza there will not take effect until construction in the area ends in mid-2008.

In 2010, tolls at main plazas will rise again slightly, going to 75 cents for TollTag users at each main lane plaza on the Tollway and Bush Turnpike. Cash customers will continue to pay $1.

The new rates apply at the tollway's three main toll booths, which are at Wycliff Avenue near downtown Dallas; Keller Springs Road in Far North Dallas; and Parker Road in Plano. The increases also apply at the Bush Turnpike's five main toll plazas – in Irving, Carrollton, Far North Dallas, Plano and Richardson.

Rates also will rise on all ramp tollbooths next year and again in 2010. Those rates vary, but most will rise by a nickel. The increases do not affect tolls on the Addison Airport Toll Tunnel or the Mountain Creek Lake Toll Bridge, which will remain at 50 cents.

"It really adds up," said motorist Michael Lovelace, who uses a mixture of freeways and city streets to get to his job near the tollway-Bush Turnpike interchange. "They don't pay me enough already."

The premium for using cash on tollway authority roads also is rising.

Cash users now pay a 25 percent premium at main tollbooths. That premium will rise to 43 percent next year, and the tollway authority hopes the higher cost will entice more people to get TollTags. During peak commute times, about 80 percent of all transactions recorded are with TollTags.

The board also has pledged to raise tolls on a more consistent basis after 2010. Under the guidelines for increasing toll rates, tolls would rise about 10 percent every five years.

"This allows us to plan regionally and for our customers to know what to expect," said Paul Wageman, chairman of the tollway authority board.

The new toll rates will not affect the new State Highway 121 toll road in Collin and Denton counties, which is owned by the Texas Department of Transportation. Portions of the all-electronic toll road have opened in Denton County, and tolls will be collected on those sections starting Dec. 1. State and regional leaders have set toll rates slightly higher on that and other state-operated roads.

Some motorists said Wednesday that they were not happy to have to pay more on roads that already have a lot of traffic.

"Do we really benefit from all that?" asked Brandon Finnigan, who said he used to commute on the tollway from the Frisco area to his old job at a car dealership in Dallas. He now works in real estate, which also requires a lot of driving. "The roads are nice, but there is always going to be traffic on them."

Dallas Toll Increase Poll Results from Dallas News

Poll Results
Is the new toll increase too much?

Yes - Aren't we paying enough already?
93.88% 690 votes

No - It's consistent with inflation.
5.44% 40 votes

735 Total Votes

Here's what other people are saying:

November 15, 2006 06:35 p.m.

Where does the toll money go? If it is used to build other roads shouldn't they be built without tolls on them? They should use tolls to pay for the new road construction. Once paid for they should be removed.

November 15, 2006 06:35 p.m.

I would like evidence of where the money is going. The roads are expensive and crowded. The Dallas Tollway is slower than taking a side road during rush hour. The expense is not worth the benefit, yet every time a much-needed new road is put in, it has a toll attached to it. Don't we already pay taxes to pay for roads? Where does the money go that we pay for registration and inspection each year?

November 15, 2006 06:25 p.m.

This is totally unrealistic. I go through 3 tollbooths just to get to work.

November 15, 2006 06:24 p.m.

For that much money, they better be washing my car as I go through the boothe! Here's an idea, charge that much so long as traffic is flowing at posted speeds. As traffic jams up, the cost to drive also drops. Nothing like getting your money's worth!

November 15, 2006 06:16 p.m.

No longer will I automatically use the tollway, this or any increase is crazy!

November 15, 2006 05:51 p.m.

This is getting a bit out of control! The tollroads do not move at the critical times when everyone is trying to get where they need to go! The only advantage of the George Bush for me is it dumps me off near my house, rather than taking LBJ to Preston and North to my subdivision. 190 is already bogged completely down at 6:45am as I head to work and 6:00pm as I return home. Geez, Louise.

November 15, 2006 05:48 p.m.

On top of that we might have to start paying toll on 635 after it is rebuilt. What will it cost to drive on a section of 190 by the time 635 is finished? $1.50?

November 15, 2006 05:46 p.m.

Often times when I take the Dallas North Tollway, I end up sitting in traffic for a long time. Until that's improved, I don't see any reason why we should pay more. After all, aren't we paying to get to places faster??

November 15, 2006 05:38 p.m.

I don't mind paying more, but they really need to step up and collect from the freeloaders who cruise through without paying. It amazes me when I hear that somebody owes over $10,000. What took them so long to get their money?

November 15, 2006 05:37 p.m.

The most expensive toll road system in the country getting more expensive. Excellent.

November 15, 2006 05:30 p.m.

This is the nation's most profitable Tollway authority - it is literally printing money. Why in the world do they need to increase rates?

November 15, 2006 05:26 p.m.

$1 per toll is ridiculous! When is the southern portion of the tollway going to be paid for? We have been paying for that portion of the road for all of my life!

November 15, 2006 05:23 p.m.

The tolls were to pay for the roads, not support an immense bureaucracy or build other roads.

November 15, 2006 05:22 p.m.

Wasn't the original point of tollways to pay for the road? Yet they continue to charge the toll long after it's been paid and now will increase it.

November 15, 2006 05:20 p.m.

This is robbery in the first degree! When you get on the tollway, it is nothing but a traffic jam. There is nothing special about this tollway - no different from all the other highways. I thought tollways were designed to help you get to your destination faster than other highways.

November 15, 2006 05:19 p.m.

Dallas has lower rates than other states.

November 15, 2006 05:10 p.m.

I'm happy giving the company money to build roads faster.

November 15, 2006 05:08 p.m.

I have used it very frequently since the price changed for cash vs. toll users. I will stop using it all together if it goes to $1. I thought that it was paid for already, what happened to that!

November 15, 2006 05:06 p.m.

With the traffic that is already on these roads, the NTTA should have more than enough money to pave the road in gold. Maybe they are trying to reduce the amount of traffic that is on them. I guess it is time to find a new route!!

November 15, 2006 05:03 p.m.

But at least they increased the difference between the two toll amounts to further incent people to obtain a tolltag.

November 15, 2006 05:01 p.m.

Well I think the toll road would be paid off quicker but it probably will not (heck we are still paying for downtown to 635). If people in DFW saw how much others are paying in tolls around the country (Florida for instance) then they would truly appreciate how little we really pay.

November 15, 2006 05:01 p.m.

I guess somebody (as in us) has to pay for the landscaping and resurfacing of George Bush Tollway. They have produced a monopoly.......

November 15, 2006 05:00 p.m.

16.7% for tolltags and 33.3% for cash customers is not inflation, it's highway robbery.

November 15, 2006 05:00 p.m.

It is outrageous that we have toll roads in Texas period. I avoid all the tollways at all cost.

November 15, 2006 05:00 p.m.

The increase should be on the cash price and not on the tolltags. It it would make more people use tolltags.

November 15, 2006 04:55 p.m.

How can the fees be consistent with inflation? We're told that inflation has been 3% or so per year, but this is a 30% increase in tolls. The tollway has only been really functional for 3 years! This is being used as a revenue stream for building tollways in other areas and we are funding it. Talk about taxation without representation! We should cut off federal and state taxes for building these tollroads if they are going to be paid for by the drivers on the road via tollbooths. How can they justify collecting tolls AND using tax money? These aren't small amounts.

November 15, 2006 04:55 p.m.

It is just like the Post office. Lets do a rate hike and nickel and dime the people. It is just greed.

November 15, 2006 04:52 p.m.

What a coincidence...just after Rick Perry got re-elected! Congrats, Texas voters, I hope you like it when every freeway in Texas is toll. I guess someone has to pay for his corruption...

November 15, 2006 04:52 p.m.

It's ridiculous enough that we have to pay for roads, and now they are increasing the amount?

November 15, 2006 04:51 p.m.

It should be up to the public to vote for uping the rates.

November 15, 2006 04:50 p.m.

Yes but cars paying with cash should be even more

November 15, 2006 04:48 p.m.

We are now paying 10 cents a mile. This is ridiculous enough for an overcrowded highway. I'm ready to tackle the only slightly slower side streets

November 15, 2006 04:47 p.m.

I think .75 cents is too much. If they would go after the people that run the toll both and don't pay, then we might be able to be back at .25 cents!

November 15, 2006 04:47 p.m.

If the amount of traffic problems and delays would decrease then the rate hike would be alright, but the NTTA needs to make a "paying" road more traffic friendly.

November 15, 2006 04:46 p.m.

Not only is the price going up, the tolls are never going to go away...... at least in my lifetime.

November 15, 2006 04:46 p.m.

Way too much. I will be canceling my toll tag before the end of the year.

November 15, 2006 04:46 p.m.

I rarely use the tollway(s) anymore, why should I have to pay $1 just to use the road every once in a while. The constant users are the drivers who wear it out, not the occassional user.

November 15, 2006 04:46 p.m.

I am 62 years old and cannot afford to leave my house anymore it seems. I spend $100 a month of my social security on tolls. It seems like I get poorer and poorer each year

November 15, 2006 04:45 p.m.

I hope everyone quits using the tollroads and they have to turn them into goat sanctuaries.

November 15, 2006 04:44 p.m.

If anyone wants to go that far North, let them pay...

November 15, 2006 04:44 p.m.

When is enough? enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The goverment just keeps taking and taking. We left england because of the gov. Maybe its time to kick out the politicans.

November 15, 2006 04:42 p.m.

Where does the money go?

November 15, 2006 04:40 p.m.

This is way too much. I will just have to find an alternative route. We are already paying way too much.

November 15, 2006 04:39 p.m.

That's what you get for living up north.

November 15, 2006 04:39 p.m.

It's ridiculous now! I can't believe that is even on the table. Pretty soon we'll have more toll roads than any other. I'm pretty stubbon about it now and only utilize the toll roads when absolutely necessary. If it goes up it will be even less!!

November 15, 2006 04:38 p.m.

The increase is NOT consistent with inflation. Inflation has been running at about 3% starting Reagan was president, and has been lower than that during the past six years. Furthermore, a much larger percentage of the tolls now are collected automatically and the cost of the technology used to collect the tolls also has been dropping significantly thereby reducing the cost of operating the toll roads. The increase in tolls simply is a rip-off! Alfred Riccomi

November 15, 2006 04:38 p.m.

These tollways already cost too much. They should never have been implemented as toll roads anyways. I can't believe someone would recommend raising the cost. Amazing!

November 15, 2006 04:32 p.m.

Yes, it is way to much. Gas going up and the roads we drive going up soon we will revert back to horse back. Call me stupid, but I was under the impression that the gas tax we pay each time we fill up is to build roads. If we are paying for the roads through tolls then give us back the gas tax.

November 15, 2006 04:32 p.m.

Good God, the tolls were too much before. Gas prices are high and tolls are going higher. What do they think, money grows on trees????

November 15, 2006 04:32 p.m.

If I am not mistaken, I thought the tollway was there till the construction of it was paid off, and now they want to raise it?!!

November 15, 2006 04:32 p.m.

congestion? maybe they could do a better job of punishing toll jumpers.

November 15, 2006 04:32 p.m.

That is ridiculous!! The cost of Everything is always rising.

November 15, 2006 04:31 p.m.

JEEZ! Enough with all the tolls in this town already! The roads have been paid for forever and we're still being charged so they can build roads elsewhere. That's ROBBERY!

November 15, 2006 04:31 p.m.

I'm tired of paying tolls, The state needs to manage their money better. We pay enough taxes already. I'm refusing to give anymore money to already the richest state in the union.

November 15, 2006 04:31 p.m.

Tolls were to be used to pay off the construction costs. Now they consider it a cash cow. I'm glad the DFW Turnpike (now I-30 and no longer a toll road) was built in the days of honesty and integrity.

November 15, 2006 04:30 p.m.

roads are paid for

November 15, 2006 04:29 p.m.

Everytime something good happens, such as gas prices dropping, someone has to jump in there and raise their price. It just seems that no matter what one does, you just can't get ahead. Someone out there please give us a break.

November 15, 2006 04:29 p.m.

I take the Tollway through two tollbooths every day to work it was my choice to live in Dallas and work in Plano. However, I have a problem paying for future projects. As I understand it, the section of the tollway I take every day is paid for. Let those that want the new road pay for it was the original concept for tollways. Under a model of making all users pay for current projects, aren't we just denying the fact that our state gas taxes and federal income taxes, which are supposed to cover road construction, are no longer sufficient?

November 15, 2006 04:28 p.m.

That's why I don't drive it!

November 15, 2006 04:28 p.m.

This rate increase is ridiculous.

November 15, 2006 04:28 p.m.

The percentage increase over existing tolls is ridiculously high

November 15, 2006 04:27 p.m.

Why the increase? There is already a big upswing in usage anyways, with all the increased traffic in Plano and especially Frisco. Why should I pay because some contractor went over budget?

November 15, 2006 04:27 p.m.

It is getting way to high when we have to pay a $1 or more to travel the tollroads!

November 15, 2006 04:26 p.m.

Seems fair to me - it's held steady for a while now.

November 15, 2006 04:25 p.m.

I thought that the original plan stated that their would be a toll for Dallas North and then at a said date the toll would either decrease or be abolished completely. Seems as though once again that local and state government is using this money to line their own pockets or for other non-revenue programs that have been formed that we cannot afford.

November 15, 2006 04:25 p.m.

thats too much guess i'll find a different route to and from work every day when ever the increase takes effect, it seems like their punishing you for not have a toll tag, not every one has a credit card or for that fact can even get one, what because we work or live far north dallas we can automatically afford the toll increase, think again busters.

November 15, 2006 04:25 p.m.

I dont understand how the rates continue to raise after the activity grows each day. The tollway was supposed to be free once it was paid for. What else are we paying for, because it is absolutely not the use of the North Texas Tollway.

November 15, 2006 04:24 p.m.

Yeah it's getting a bit out of hand. I'm up to almost 80 bucks a month in tolls already. I'll start finding alternate ways to go. Still will be stuck in traffic no matter if it's on the service roads or on the tollway... What's the difference?

November 15, 2006 04:22 p.m.

This is too much but Im not surprised to be honest. I thought it would have already happend by now though.

November 15, 2006 04:22 p.m.

I think they should suspend charging a toll down by cedar springs, I am getting stuck in traffic every night/morning due to the construction. If this continues I will start using Inwood and just bypass the tollway all together. I know they need to do improvements but it's really getting to be just a big pain in the rear and now they want to raise the rates. What a joke.....

November 15, 2006 04:21 p.m.

since this is the only area i have ever lived in i don't know what the going rate is, but that is going to add about $3 to my daily commute expenses. my wages are not going up that much...

November 15, 2006 04:21 p.m.

I don't live in Plano anymore. But why keep up with inflation? It seems the current rates would pay off the projects during the expected timeline and unless the NTTA could provide analysis that the payoff was not keeping up with the timeline, no change should take place.

November 15, 2006 04:19 p.m.

I thought we paid for these roads already? Toll roads are nothing but easy money for corrupt governments. Makes me want to throw up. Is there a charge for that? If so, has it gone up?

November 15, 2006 04:19 p.m.

This is ridiculous. We are already paying a lot to use the roads, and we normally have to sit in bumper to bumper traffic. Aren't these roads paid off yet? Isn't that the purpose of the toll road--pay for it until it's paid off? So whose pockets will the increase be going into?

November 15, 2006 04:18 p.m.

No. Nyet. Nein. This is yet another breach of the public trust by the North Texas Tollway. When the original stretch of the Tollway (downtown to LBJ) was opened 30 years ago, the tolls were to COME OFF after the tollway was paid for. It was paid for some years ago. Then they raised the toll to 60 cents and have the south end users subsidizing the activity on the far north end. Enough is enough! Where is the accountability to the public?

November 15, 2006 04:18 p.m.

that's why i don't take any of the toll roads! unfortunately, in a few years all roads will have a toll attached! every major highway, thoroughfare, you name it! mark my word, we haven't seen anything yet!!!

November 15, 2006 04:16 p.m.

I already change my mind sometimes on taking a different route, now I will definetely not consider any tollways.

November 15, 2006 04:15 p.m.

The Tollway Authority gets to decide if/when to raise toll rates? Wow. That's convenient. Almost like Congress getting to vote themselves a raise. Can they please vote to dedicate a Toll Tag lane at all toll gates so Tag owners can avoid stopping for idiots digging for loose change from between the seat cushions?

November 15, 2006 04:14 p.m.

They can raise the fee to whatever they want because it will never affect me because I refuse to pay to drive on any road. So I guess they won't be making money off me. And I can guarantee this forever. I can guarantee to never pay a toll in Dallas not even in a life or death situation because no one is worth paying a toll fee and I do mean no one. There are plenty of roads to ride for FREE and I choose to be cheap and will never travel on any pay road in TEXAS and I can guarante this for a fact. Because they say never say never but when I say never I mean never because I am one stubborn customer.

November 15, 2006 04:14 p.m.

Houston's toll roads are $1 for tag users and $1.25 cash. Even at the new rates, the Dallas toll roads are a bargain.

November 15, 2006 04:13 p.m.

Why are we paying more? What exactly will we get out of it? Yet another company trying to get the last drop of blood out of us.

November 15, 2006 04:12 p.m.

I do not mind increasing the toll rates periodically. What I do mind is when I pay full fare for a toll road and am forced to use one lane because of construction. If you are going to reduce the traffic flow, then reduce (or eliminate) the toll for that period too!

November 15, 2006 04:11 p.m.

I take Tollway between Mockingbird and Northwest Highway - sometimes Walnut Hill. I don't want to pay for roads elsewhere.

November 15, 2006 04:11 p.m.

Goodness, it costs $2.25 to drive from downtown to Parker Road, just a few miles. I grew up in an area that has toll roads, and to this day travel on them is considerably cheaper than the tollway here.

November 15, 2006 04:10 p.m.

That is nuts. I for one will be doing my best to avoid the Toll way. They are no longer going to get my money.

November 15, 2006 04:09 p.m.

I'm not sure if they are trying to steer drivers off their roads but this recent increase will go along way in acheiving that goal.

November 15, 2006 04:08 p.m.

if they would make everyone pay and not just the ones with tags (I am a toll tag user). I see people running tolls every day.

November 15, 2006 04:08 p.m.

Yes of course we are already paying too much. It is extremly frustrating that in an addition to paying such high costs - it isn't any quicker due to the construction. As I realize this is needed for improvement and expansion but we should get a discount during the inconvenience. Who owns the tollway and the George Bush turnpike? How much is the state actually benefiting from the increase?

November 15, 2006 04:08 p.m.

Yes....The North Dallas Tollway is already paid for and I think the Bush is probably close.

November 15, 2006 04:08 p.m.

we were told at the time the toll road was built that once it paid for itself there would be no toll. like interstate 30 at one time was a toll road. obviously that promise has been broken. its ridiculous to charge that much to use a road that our tax money already helps to fund.

November 15, 2006 04:06 p.m.

Yes, this is to much. Unfortunately, NTTA has us tied down to using their toll roads in so many locations that it is our only viable alternative. I'm waiting for the day that they finish converting every highway and major street in the metroplex into toll roads. Then, we will have to pay tolls to even leave our homes.

November 15, 2006 04:06 p.m.

Absolutely TOO much!! It makes me mad that NTTA spends money doing stupid stuff like power washing underneath its bridges, "remodeling" toll plazas, and street sweeping perfectly clean roads every Sunday. The drivers at the south end have been paying a lot longer than than those at the north end. Let the Collin County people foot the bill for choosing live up North by paying extra at their toll booths to extend the Tollway to Oklahoma.

November 15, 2006 04:06 p.m.

inflation is about 3% that is a 17% of 34% increase.

November 15, 2006 04:06 p.m.

This is rediculous. I live in Frisco and I am now surrounded by toll roads. Put some toll roads in South Dallas before you up the tolls or change another road up north to a pay highway. It is reverse discrimination when you only have them thru suburbs with money.

November 15, 2006 04:06 p.m.

This is insane. I see guys edging and weed-eating the side of the George Bush Turnpike. I've even seen water trucks watering the side of George Bush Turnpike in the middle of the day. Shouldn't they be on the same watering restrictions? If they need more money, then they should cut costs and become more efficent.

November 15, 2006 04:06 p.m.

Isn't the Tollway already paid for?

November 15, 2006 04:05 p.m.

They need to stop wasting money by replacing the old-style toll booth signs with new, "pretty", LCD-style signs. It seems to me like they're already raking in money hand-over-fist.

November 15, 2006 04:04 p.m.

Com'on!!! IT's not like 190 is a great High Way!!! Stop making the middle class poorer....we are barely surviving!!!

November 15, 2006 04:04 p.m.

We come in from Kansas to Dallas and Ft Worth many times during the year. We have a student in Ft Worth and family in Plano. The Bush is the easiest way to get between the two cities in the shortest amount of time. No we don't have a toll tag and to raise it to a dollar per gate, geesh, it's already expensive enough. Give it a rest. I also understand that much of the toll monies that have been raised for road work has gone to other pork projects. Sounds as if the Texas legislature is as bad as the Kansas one...spend with reckless irresponsibility.

November 15, 2006 04:03 p.m.

when are just gonna stop and say NO MORE!!!!

November 15, 2006 04:02 p.m.

Let me get this straight.... NTTA has more traffic (hence more money) than they expected and they want to raise MORE money?? How can we avoid constant TAX increases??

November 15, 2006 04:02 p.m.

They are making the money they expected, give us a break.

November 15, 2006 04:01 p.m.

So it's going to cost $5 to drive from the south end of the airport to Garland. Now I know where the term "highway robbery" came from. It's time for the NTTA to have a heart or at least explain why they don't!

November 15, 2006 04:01 p.m.

When will this stop? Isn't the tollway paid for by now?

November 15, 2006 04:00 p.m.

It's already too high. I don't use the toll roads now unless it's a must.

November 15, 2006 04:00 p.m.

yes, of course it is too high. STOP TOLL ROADS IN TEXAS !!!

November 15, 2006 03:59 p.m.

The New York State thruway spans much greater distances than either the GB or DNT combined, but is a fraction of the cost - WHY???? I would travel 18 miles from Canastota, NY to Syracuse NY & it would cost 40 cents. How much would that cost on the Toll roads here? That's enough to make me find alternative routes - and I have a toll tag. It's absurd.

November 15, 2006 03:59 p.m.

Privately owned toll roads are financial boondogles. What's going to be the benefit of increased tolls to those of us who use them?

November 15, 2006 03:59 p.m.

This is absolutely retarded. These roads are already some of the most expensive in the country, and now they're raising the rates? I've got an idea, how about we just start metering air, that way we can evenly distribute the cost across the metroplex?

November 15, 2006 03:58 p.m.

It's just another money grab. Are they not making enough already? It's another example of greedy polititions reaching into our pockets. I for one am sick of it! I will not be using the tollway anymore.

November 15, 2006 03:58 p.m.

That's why I will oppose the development of all "local" tollways. Once a faceless agency or local government gets their hands into citizens pockets, they will always reach for more.

November 15, 2006 03:57 p.m.

Everything is going up except my salary.

November 15, 2006 03:57 p.m.

try finishing 190 first.....

November 15, 2006 03:57 p.m.

It paid for already. Thay just want to have more money in the bank to fund parties.

November 15, 2006 03:57 p.m.

We're getting lousy service for our toll money. Nothing but congestion and construction. And no matter which way I travel, I have to take a toll road. It's out of control!

November 15, 2006 03:56 p.m.

This is absolutely ridiculous. The roads are already paid for by taxes and toll fees that we pay. Also, why do we have to pay for a construction of a road in tarrant county? Enough is enough... boycott the tollway!

November 15, 2006 03:54 p.m.

YES, defintely and the money is probably going in to some bigwig's pocket.... so frustrating.

November 15, 2006 03:54 p.m.

I do not want to pay for roads in other areas I just want to pay for roads that I use.

November 15, 2006 03:53 p.m.

It's ridiculous! What is the point of paying more and getting less? The Tollway is torn up and under construction in several places. It is not a convenience, its a hassle! Fix the damn thing, make it usable, then raise your freaking rates!

November 15, 2006 03:53 p.m.

Increasing tolls will cause people to start using the other main roads which are already too congested. Making it harder for emergency crews to get to an accident if there is one. Plus, wage increases are at it's lowest rate in years, and we haven't had a minimum wage increase in I don't know how long. Sure, it's being talked about, but is it going to happen? I don't think the people of Dallas should have to suffer for others greed.

November 15, 2006 03:52 p.m.

And what do I pay taxes for again? Roads and schools? Now I have to pay to drive and send my kids to private school because the systems stink.

November 15, 2006 03:52 p.m.

We are already having difficulty getting residents to support a toll on SH121 because of the cost. Unless there is some damn good stated reason to increase you need to lower the tolls.

November 15, 2006 03:51 p.m.

Good grief, what else? That's too much. $.75 or $1.00 from one point to the next on George Bush is ridiculous.

November 15, 2006 03:51 p.m.

It's high enough!

November 15, 2006 03:49 p.m.

It is too much considering that many people avoid paying tolls and when caught, they get by for pennies on the dollar. Maybe they should try enforcing the collection of tolls and there would may not be an increase needed.

November 15, 2006 03:48 p.m.

There is no justification for an increase when the authority is testing a system that could elimanate booths altogether and thus save money. With additional toll roads (121 for example) coming on line the authority will be increasing its take by several million dollars. This is uncalled for and unnecessary.

November 15, 2006 03:47 p.m.

The toll was 50 cents when I started using it 25 years ago. For the price to double in 25 years is about right.

November 15, 2006 03:46 p.m.

Shouldn't this be paid off by now? When did our tax dollars stop funding roads?

November 15, 2006 03:45 p.m.

Just like everything else in the world goes up in price.

November 15, 2006 03:45 p.m.

YIKES!!!

November 15, 2006 03:45 p.m.

They are making so much money that they are already re-paving the Bush. Why do you resurface when it has only been open about two years?

November 15, 2006 03:44 p.m.

Oh what fun! Pay more to sit in bumper-to-bumper rush hour traffic.

November 15, 2006 03:44 p.m.

Some of the tollways are already paid for, why would they increase the amount?

November 15, 2006 03:43 p.m.

What, is there a short supply of tolls overseas so we are going to get hit here like we do the gas prices.

November 15, 2006 03:42 p.m.

I thought we were paying for roads that were already built. My mortgage remains the same for 30 years. Why the increase? GREED?

November 15, 2006 03:41 p.m.

Mini-government at it's best! Tax and spend! It's our future you see, no more state highways expenditures.

November 15, 2006 03:41 p.m.

Stupid...there plenty of money coming in everyday. The increase to $1.00 might make some people not use the roads....others are stuck.

November 15, 2006 03:39 p.m.

This Rick Perry need to refrain from making any more tollways. If you are going to raise a hike to other tollways then you should turn back the 121 tollway back to free 121 in the DFW area to collin county or what ever they are.

November 15, 2006 03:39 p.m.

The tolls should pay off the road they support. They should not tax that road for support of other road projects. Turn new projects into toll roads if you want that type of support. The toll road is the new tax that will never go away!

November 15, 2006 03:39 p.m.

The NTTA is a selfperpetuating entity that will always have another project to pay for and thus, a reason to raise toll prices. What a joke!

November 15, 2006 03:38 p.m.

if they would only get rid of those damn toll booths it would make life faster

November 15, 2006 03:38 p.m.

They need to do more strategic planning to prevent the constent construction and destruction and then rebuilding of the tollway. I do not remember a time when either the North Dallas Tollway or George Bush was not under construction at some point. These roads were meant to take some of the burden off of already over crowded roads. They are already raising enough money, they are not spending it wisely at all.

November 15, 2006 03:38 p.m.

A modern day example of a Monarchy. Unelected dictators raising our taxes.

November 15, 2006 03:38 p.m.

A 25% increase?? If only my paycheck would increase that much.....

November 15, 2006 03:38 p.m.

Enough already!

November 15, 2006 03:37 p.m.

THis is ridiculous they are charging us for a highway that we have already paid for with our taxes then on top of that you are raising the price.

November 15, 2006 03:37 p.m.

What is this going to pay for? The roads are built already. There's plenty of money in today's tolls to keep up with maintenance. The tollway doesn't save any time during rush hour. If anything, they need to charge premiums at rush hour and drop the price the rest of the time.

November 15, 2006 03:36 p.m.

I don't understand raising the tolls when the tollway now is ineffective, given that you sit in traffic just as much as any other road/highway. The purpose of the tollway was to pay for the road (which we do anyway through taxes). I am sure that the roads have paid for themselves by now, and now they want to charge us more?

November 15, 2006 03:36 p.m.

The North Dallas Tollway was supposed to lose it's toll booths years ago... this is just more greedy politicians...

November 15, 2006 03:36 p.m.

Too much along with the other taxes we pay. Plus, traffic is almost as bad as on the 'free' rodes.

November 15, 2006 03:36 p.m.

2 things. #1 the original toll section of the Dallas North Tollway from I-35 to Inwood Rd. has been paid off for 22 years now. #2 Motorists in Dallas, Collin, and Denton Counties are being charged to subsidize the construction of the Southwest Parkway in Tarrant County. According to most estimates this road will NEVER turn a profit. Nice waste of money there NTTA. No wonder why Dallas and Collin County want to pull out of the authority.

November 15, 2006 03:35 p.m.

I think the best roads are toll roads...the state can't keep up. Make the cash people pay $2. It's rediculous not to have a toll tag if you EVER drive through Dallas. Traffic would flow so much smoother if people would get with the times.

November 15, 2006 03:35 p.m.

With all the dead landscaping and unecessary asphalt paving along the GBT, they might as well increase the tolls.

November 15, 2006 03:35 p.m.

This is ridiculous. Especially at 55mph and an increasing amount of traffic.

November 15, 2006 03:34 p.m.

Way too much - rip off.

November 15, 2006 03:32 p.m.

I suppose the increase will go to pay for another re-landscaping of George Bush... only to have it all die yet again. What a waste.

November 15, 2006 03:32 p.m.

This is crap for two reasons. First, toll roads are a form of double taxation. We paid our tax dollars to have the roads built, and now we have to pay again to use them. Second, weren't the tolls supposed to come off the North Dallas Tollway once it was paid for? I'm sure enough quarters have been collected over the last 20 years or however long it's been a toll road to pay for the construction and maintenance of that road for quite some time.

November 15, 2006 03:32 p.m.

I have one word, Absurd!

Vince May letter to Dukes

Nov 9, 2006

State Rep Dawnna Dukes
CAMPO Board

Ms Dukes,
It appears that CAMPO is preparing to vote on the toll road question. The agenda for the 9-13 Monday night meeting has an item, #3, that will schedule a public hearing on toll roads for January 17, 2007.
http://www.campotexas.org/pdfs/item3Nov.pdf (small pdf file)
The January vote won't mention toll roads. But the outcome of this vote will decide the issue. CAMPO will be voting on the "TIP" (Transportation Improvement Program). TxDOT will be asking for authorization to begin spending hundreds of millions of dollars for engineering work on Phase II roads. The TxDOT spokesman will lie to the CAMPO Board and say "If we spend this money for engineering work, the roads can be constructed as either free roads or toll roads, when CAMPO makes up its mind."
Let me explain. On Sept 25, in response to a reader question, Mr Ben Wear wrote about the new section of US 183. The reader wanted to know why there was no exit from the SouthBound (SB) US 183 mainlanes at the US 290 interchange. We have to exit SB 183 before Cameron Rd, and sit through those lights, if we want to turn onto 290E. Mr Wear said that Mr Bob Daigh of TxDOT told him that there was not enough room for a ramp.
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/09/25/25wear.html
This is not the only change for 183 and 290 users. If you are headed WestBound (WB) on 290 and turn SB onto 183, you now are forced to stop at the light on Springdale Rd. We can no longer use a bridge that we have used for 30 years. If you are headed NB on 183 and want to turn onto 290, you also now have to stop at the Springdale light. (I have a written promise from Ben Wear that he will write a column about this, plus all of the other currently free bridges on 183 that TxDOT will steal from us. But I think his editors won't let him write it. The Statesman strives to keep its readers ignorant.)
People traveling WB on 290 who turn onto NB 183 are also unable to get on the mainlanes until after they go trough the Cameron traffic signal. Congestion on the 183 frontage roads is just as bad as it was before the brand new section of 183 opened. How could this happen?
TxDOT designed, engineered and constructed 183 as a toll road. Their intent is to make life on the free lanes so miserable that people will get on the toll road and stay on the toll road at all times. Please recall that the work on US 183 was paid for 100% with gas taxes, yet TxDOT has stabbed us in the back and built a road that only functions well as a toll road, and only if 290E is also tolled.
This is why CAMPO must vote against putting any Phase II roads in the TIP. TxDOT has already designed the Phase II roads as toll roads. I have the maps to prove it. If you give TxDOT hundreds of millions of dollars they will engineer them as toll roads. That will be an irrevocable act.
If CAMPO later decides that CAMPO really wanted free roads, CAMPO will have to find hundreds of millions of dollars for new engineering work. That is impossible, so we will be stuck with toll roads. This is why CAMPO must vote for, or against, toll roads before putting the Phase II roads in the TIP.
I also question the timing of the January 17 vote. The people of Travis County have elected new leaders who will be answerable to us. A February vote would allow their voices to be heard. This is not just a lament about 'lame ducks.'
CAMPO member Mr Bob Daigh is serial liar. No vote on toll roads should be taken while he sits on the board. Other members have lied. I have compelling reason to believe that Chairman Barrientos sold his vote on toll roads. (I will provide detailed reports in a future letters.) For that reason, we should wait until incoming Senator Kirk Watson replaces Chairman Barrientos.
Let me summarize how I believe the people of east Travis County would want you, our representative, to vote:
1) On 9-13 you should vote against the proposed 2007 calendar, as written. It should be amended to remove any TIP vote in January.
2) CAMPO should vote on the toll road question (the moratorium) in February.
3) A vote on including the Phase II toll roads in the TIP should come after CAMPO has voted for, or against, tolling.
4) CAMPO should begin an immediate investigation of Mr Bob Daigh's fitness to continue on the Board.
Sincerely,
Vincent J May
272-5343

PS: I spoke with Mr Art Zamorano on 11-02. I noted that the CAMPO web site is missing numerous archives of meeting minutes. He acknowledged my concern and said the he would restore them back online if the board gives him support. All government bodies in Texas are required to maintain official records. Good government bodies make their records available online.
I take note of the deletion of the Preliminary Feasibility Analysis studies from the CTRMA web site. These studies are the only foundation documents CTRMA has in support of tolling. I am on record as calling officials at CTRMA liars with a criminal disregard for Texas law. You now have more proof.
The Feasibility studies had significantly different numbers from what CRA presented. For instance, CTRMA said that 290E would have 43k mainlane users in 2030 and 101k vehicles using the frontage roads. CRA did not give counts but said that the tolled 290E mainlanes would be moving at 33mph, which is consistent with >150k vehicles.
The numbers for other Phase II roads also varied widely between CTRMA and CRA. I will supply the missing CTRMA studies to anyone who will put them online for public use.

TxDOT fails environmental approvals for SW Austin Phase II Toll!

From: Carol Cespedes
Subject: TxDOT fails environmental approvals
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:16:11 -0800 (PST)

Fix290 Group members:

You will find a reminder for Thursday evening's Fix290 Forum in your inbox, but we want to be sure you know about some breaking news relating to the featured presentation from Ed Peacock of the City of Austin watershed protection department.

We have just received documentation that TxDOT has been denied approval from the Army Corps of Engineers for the Highway 290 West construction project. The rejection letter cites the project's “more than minimal adverse impacts to the aquatic environment.” All construction that involves "discharge of dredged and fill materials" into waters of the United States (including Williamson Creek) must be approved by the Army Corps of Engineers. TxDOT still has the possibility of obtaining an "individual" permit for the construction, but we understand that process takes about two years.

There's more! The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) has also requested that TxDOT resubmit its Water Pollution Abatement Plan because of flaws and omissions in the original submission.

What does this mean for the future of Highway 290 West? Does it improve the prospects for Fix290? Come to the forum tonight (Thursday, Nov. 2) and find out.

Time: 7:00 - 9:00 PM
Place: ACC Pinnacle Campus, Room 108
Carol Cespedes

RED LIGHT CAMERAS: PROFIT, NOT SAFETY

Central Texas Civil Liberties Union

For immediate release: Nov. 1, 2006

Contact: Debbie Russell, 573-6194

RED LIGHT CAMERAS: PROFIT, NOT SAFETY

Austin City Council--Don't Install Red Light Cameras!

Tomorrow, City Council is voting to install invasive, expensive “red light cameras” to catch red light runners without trying proven, inexpensive solutions first. These systems violate due process and studies show they’re ineffective, regularly ticketing innocent people while rear-end collisions increase.

"If red light cameras truly reduced red light running, red light camera manufacturers would be putting themselves out of business." -- National Motorists Association

Councilmember Kim, the City’s main proponent, cites a lobbyist’s study (the Texas Research Board) as the sole source for “debunking” the multitudes of nationwide government and safety-institute studies which show rear-end collisions have risen anywhere from 8-81% where these programs have been implemented. Through open records requests, we have found city officials have met with lobbyists from the system manufacturers, but not with safety institutes or governmental agencies that have studied the systems and found enough ills to develop strict guidelines for the programs to be used supplementally, NOT as a first-step/“easy” fix.

If safety were the primary concern for Council, these studies would NOT be ignored and federal recommendations NOT taken lightly; engineer-proven alternatives would at least be STUDIED locally (the City has NOT performed any study) - if not implemented first; and we would not be putting the petal to the metal on an approximately $1.5 million dollar venture without first waiting to see how the program plays out in Houston, as Mayor Wynn said he’d do just before passing the resolution this summer. Observing the legal implications of the civil vs. criminal charge in Texas as it will inevitably play out in Houston first is only common sense. Why not start with the simplest, cheapest, least controversial method of increasing public safety?

"Councilmember Kim misinforms the public when she claims Red Light Cameras improve safety. Studies from cities nationwide prove they have INCREASED accidents. Just like tolling roads we've already paid for (and shockingly, some of the camera dealers are the same special interest profiteers), proponents of these programs place profits before the public interest and our families’ safety," --Sal Costello, People for Efficient Transportation

Co-Sponsor Cmbr. Leffingwell, instead of examining the engineering and political failures that have led to many accidents at busy intersections, has blamed Austinites for their negligence. Had he looked at the MULTITUDES of government studies that prove that red light running is not largely voluntary - that too-short yellow light times don’t allow drivers enough time to clear intersections - he might hesitate to put the burden of guilt on the driver…and NOT vote to put more burden on the taxpayers of this city with buying into a broken technological system.

He also asserts there is a “direct correlation between congestion and the incidents of running red lights.” Odd, as studies show that one of the proven solutions to red light running, timing lights to decrease the chances of drivers having to encounter red lights, also happens to alleviate congestion, and, I might add for the environmentally concerned member, happens to also decrease idling time at intersections, which cuts down on pollution.

Instead of buying into more safety woes and inevitable legal battles, council, VOTE NO TOMORROW!

"...red light cameras aren't fixing a safety problem, they're creating one."

- Office of the U.S. House Majority Leader, 2001

RED LIGHT CAMERAS INCREASE PROFITS AND INJURIES

Numerous studies and reports now show Red Light Cameras actually INCREASE accidents.

City of Austin council members, such as Jennifer Kim, are putting financial incentives (for the city and their own campaigns - as in bundlers) ahead of the safety of our Austin families.

Below are a few examples:

1) Washington Post Reports Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents.

2) Colorado Study: Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents 83 Percent.

3) Portland Cameras Cause 140 Percent Jump in Rear End Collisions.

4) Maryland, Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents.

5) Georgia red light cameras are raising cash, accident rates, and the number of injuries.

And other concerns:

1) Chicago Man falsely accused of running a red light in a city he had never visited.

2) Minneapolis Red Light Cameras Nab More Innocent Drivers.

3) California issued nearly $10,000 in bogus red light camera tickets.

READ THESE Smart alternatives:

And lastly, our Constitution gives us the right to face our accuser in court. Who is the accuser here, a camera?

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